Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Third party candidate?

Have you ever voted or considering to vote for Third Party candidate? Do you think any Third Party candidate has a chance to get anywhere?


In most countries, even Britain, Parliaments consist of more then just 2 parties, in a country where I was born, Latvia, there are about 15 - 20 parties running for Parliament elections, and about 5 - 7 pass. I know, many Americans are not satisfied with only 2 parties having power, but do you think United States are doomed to choose between donkey and elephant?

Third party candidate?
As long we have the "winner-take-all" system (where the candidate with the most votes in that state gets all of that state's electoral votes) and the electoral college, it seems very unlikely that a third party candidate could win. I almost voted for Ross Perot back in 1992, and then realized that the guy was nuts, so I didn't. But the structure of our electoral system has a lot to do with the two party system, and since you need a constitutional amendment to get rid of the electoral college, its seems unlikely that will happen any time soon.
Reply:I have voted for third party candidates.





The viability is a question mark, as the media does not take them seriously and the cannot get the exposure to get the message out.





Some Third party candidates are so out there, it wrecks it for the rest of them
Reply:3rd Party = throwing your vote away.
Reply:Dem's and Repub's make it extremely difficult for a 3rd party candidate.
Reply:There is no chance for a third party in the US until a centrist comes along. Every third party that we've had was either way left of Michael Moore or far to the right of Ann Coulter. Those are the fringes and there just aren't many voters out there. Arnold Schwarzenegger is the closest I've seen to a centrist leader but of course we all know of his citizenship problems. How about somebody push for that twenty eighth amendment so the governator can become the presinator? We'd have a pretty first lady anyway.
Reply:3rd Party is a wasted vote

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